я тут наткнулся на audioasylum на обсуждение еще 2003 года - парни писают кипятком от грандиозного открытия:
вкратце:
- после нажатия кнопки ПЛЕЙ на проигрывателе в начале диска (или при переходе на трек путем нажатия номера трека с пульта) звук гораздо ХУЖЕ, чем если стартовать композицию при помощи клавиш "скип бэк" или "скип форвард"
может, вы обсуждали тут эти вопросы еще год назад?
цитаты:
if you play the first 15 seconds of the first track of CD, then jump back to the beginning of the first track, the first track---and the rest of the CD---should sound better
еще
The local Singapore Wadia dealer admitted this problem affect their products too - jeromelang 23:08:29 06/10/03 (2)
This dealer has since ceased audio retail business and has moved on to start up a record label with a partner that produces D2D LPs and SACDs that are highly regarded. According to him, whenever he was making a demo, he would secretly repeat tracks to improve the sound.
The current Singapore Wadia dealer, who incidentaly also carries the Naim products, also admitted both these products are susceptable to this problem. Originally I thought that the Naim players would be free from this problem as suggested by Ole Lund Christensen.
So far, the only 2 products that I know of which are not affected by this problem are the DCS Verdi/Elgar and the Ed Meitner DAC-8/modified SCD-1. Both combo are using SOTA data memory buffer/reclocking techniques at the DAC stage which discard the original jitter-embedded clock data and re-generating a clean new bitsream with a clock isolated from power ripples. Both products are confirmed to be free from this problem by 2 separate trusted sources.
The Pioneer DV-S755Ai and VSX-A10i which supposedly use similar techniques through the iEEE1394 digital interface, however, wasn't as effective in eliminating this problem.
What you said mirrors almost my own thoughts. If this dirty secret becomes common knowledge, hopefully someone will design a transport that will play "right" no matter how one accesses the tracks, and AT AFFORDABLE PRICES!
насколько это верно?
я попробовал послушать - похоже, что становится звук лучше, но у меня нету хай резолюшн системы чтоб четко оценить звук ПКД, поэтому это улучшение на грани самовнушения, а у них там очень много прозревших!
специалисты - ваше мнение?
отчего такая срань происходит?
какие проигрыватели работают хорошо ВСЕГДА?
как говорят парни play "right" no matter how one accesses the tracks, and AT AFFORDABLE PRICES!
вкратце:
- после нажатия кнопки ПЛЕЙ на проигрывателе в начале диска (или при переходе на трек путем нажатия номера трека с пульта) звук гораздо ХУЖЕ, чем если стартовать композицию при помощи клавиш "скип бэк" или "скип форвард"
может, вы обсуждали тут эти вопросы еще год назад?
цитаты:
if you play the first 15 seconds of the first track of CD, then jump back to the beginning of the first track, the first track---and the rest of the CD---should sound better
еще
The local Singapore Wadia dealer admitted this problem affect their products too - jeromelang 23:08:29 06/10/03 (2)
This dealer has since ceased audio retail business and has moved on to start up a record label with a partner that produces D2D LPs and SACDs that are highly regarded. According to him, whenever he was making a demo, he would secretly repeat tracks to improve the sound.
The current Singapore Wadia dealer, who incidentaly also carries the Naim products, also admitted both these products are susceptable to this problem. Originally I thought that the Naim players would be free from this problem as suggested by Ole Lund Christensen.
So far, the only 2 products that I know of which are not affected by this problem are the DCS Verdi/Elgar and the Ed Meitner DAC-8/modified SCD-1. Both combo are using SOTA data memory buffer/reclocking techniques at the DAC stage which discard the original jitter-embedded clock data and re-generating a clean new bitsream with a clock isolated from power ripples. Both products are confirmed to be free from this problem by 2 separate trusted sources.
The Pioneer DV-S755Ai and VSX-A10i which supposedly use similar techniques through the iEEE1394 digital interface, however, wasn't as effective in eliminating this problem.
What you said mirrors almost my own thoughts. If this dirty secret becomes common knowledge, hopefully someone will design a transport that will play "right" no matter how one accesses the tracks, and AT AFFORDABLE PRICES!
насколько это верно?
я попробовал послушать - похоже, что становится звук лучше, но у меня нету хай резолюшн системы чтоб четко оценить звук ПКД, поэтому это улучшение на грани самовнушения, а у них там очень много прозревших!
специалисты - ваше мнение?
отчего такая срань происходит?
какие проигрыватели работают хорошо ВСЕГДА?
как говорят парни play "right" no matter how one accesses the tracks, and AT AFFORDABLE PRICES!