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Обсуждениe плазменных панелей СП Pioneer/ Nec

 
 
Пионер не сдавал ЖК, он им и не занимался.

В целом согласен, похоже на агонию, крупняку чтобы выжить, нужен массовый продукт, а смещение в сторону элитной техники премиум класса на основе собственного замкнутого промышленного цикла - это утопия.
 
 
Здравствуйте! Мы с мужем приобрели 428XD. Супер! Очень нравится! Скажите, пожалуйста, действительно необходимо делать обкатку? Зачем? Могу сделать это только на "белом шуме". Сколько часов надо наработать? Заранее спасибо и извините, что возвращаюсь к началу дискуссии.
 
 

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В целом согласен, похоже на агонию

так и есть... пипец пио.


Дело LCD живет и побеждает.
 
 
*** Мурад ***:
Пионер не сдавал ЖК, он им и не занимался.

В целом согласен, похоже на агонию, крупняку чтобы выжить, нужен массовый продукт, а смещение в сторону элитной техники премиум класса на основе собственного замкнутого промышленного цикла - это утопия.



Японская компания "Аудио ноте" конструировала и продавала под заказ элитные ламповые усилители стоимостью 260000 доляров (не опечатка)
Это были лучшие ламповые усилители в мире и что?
Компания не выжила!
 
 
ну вы чё как дети? жопу с пальцем зачем сравнивать?
 
 
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Пионер не сдавал ЖК, он им и не занимался.
Да это понятно.  Я имел ввиду: сдал ЖК - не стал участвовать в конкуренции на рынке ЖК панелей.
 
 
Интересная информация о Pioneer 9G:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/printthread.php?t=1003092&pp=60&page=9
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D-Nice 03-07-08 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Marty1781 (Post 13317294)
So now that we know Pioneer wont be using the Panasonic panels until after they complete production on the 9G Kuros, I was wondering if these 9G Kuros are going to incorporate the 9mm thick design and the "infinite contrast" black levels that were displayed a month or so ago? Or was that just a concept model that isnt likely to be released anytime soon?
No 9mm or absolute zero minimum luminance this year. However, the minimum luminance levels of the 9Gs are so low, one may not even care to go lower;)

BTW, to all the non-believers, I told you that this deal was for 2009 and had nothing to do with 2008 :D
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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/printthread.php?t=1003092&pp=60&page=10
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D-Nice 03-07-08 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by greenland (Post 13317857)
What deal?. All I have read is that Pioneer is talking to Panasonic but no deal has been struck. Is there actually a deal in place?

It seems to me that Pioneer is in no position to dictate many terms. The drowning guy who is going down for the third time, does not get to dictate his rescue rules to the lifeguard.

If a deal has not been struck yet, then it may very well not come to pass. I notice that the Pioneer statement paid just a very small amount of lip service to Plasma, and stressed other electronics products that they are going to put a lot more effort into.
The deal is not done, BUT from my source, if everything goes as planned, this will be the best thing to happen for either company and/or consumers of Pioneer and Panasonic plasmas.

Also, this "alliance" (it really wont be a OEM deal) will include Hitachi as they will be doing 80" screens with 5 lumen tech.

2009 is the beginning of a bright future for Japanese PDP makers.
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D-Nice 03-07-08 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by nayyer (Post 13318860)
are the 8g Elites 5lumen or 2 lumen tech.
3+
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D-Nice 03-07-08 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by highheater (Post 13318824)
If the 9Gs dont have 9mm, infinite contrast, or 10 lumen improvements exactly what are they bringing to the party that is new?

We saw some prices thrown around but do we have anything other than speculation regarding the features for 9G?
thinner, brighter, blacker.
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D-Nice 03-07-08 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by nayyer (Post 13318908)
so what lumen will the 9gs be
That i cannot discuss.

But, find that old "the future of plasma is bright" pdf and connect the dots to see how and why Pioneer will bring new thinner profile panels into the market this year ;)
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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/printthread.php?t=1003092&pp=60&page=11
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D-Nice 03-08-08 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by RichB (Post 13326271)
The panel is the tough part that is why it is being outsourced. The other parts make it a Kuro. The Panel makes it black ;)

I think we will see similar black level performance and hopefully ECC from both manufacturers in 2009.

- Rich

The actual 5 lumen manufacturing process is nearly identical for both companies. The differences lies in the location of the electrodes.

Next year you should finally see Panasonic incorporate the bonded color filter technique. AR filters should also be the same (unless Pioneer puts in their contract that the Panasonic lines used to produce the Pioneer PDP component are exclusive to Pioneer). The difference will be in the PDP driver.

The PDP driver does play a major role in how the panel works. Unless Panasonic can match Pioneer in driving technique (which means they need to lose the Real Black Drive algorithm) or Pioneer shares their driver tech, there will still be PQ and black level differences.
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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/printthread.php?t=1003092&pp=60&page=12
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D-Nice 03-08-08 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by htwaits (Post 13329962)
Were did you read that there wouldnt be a 9G 2008 model year from Pioneer? It must not have been here. ;)
I think he meant the 9mm prototype. That aint coming this year. However, a much thinner model is.
 
 
Chesky Records Если перевести было лениво, достаточно и ссылок.  
 
 
Ждем выхода Pioneer 9G этим летом:
http://wesleytech.com/pioneer-plasma-business-clarification/575/
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...The next generation KURO flat panel televisions will be coming this summer as planned with no disruption in Pioneer production...
Russ Johnston
Executive Vice President of Marketing and Product Planning, Home Entertainment Business Solutions Group Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc.
Тоньше, ярче, чернее, но пока не с абсолютным черным, показанным на CES2008.
 
 
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Ждем выхода Pioneer 9G этим летом
Не,  я уже не жду.  А если бы ждал, то что-нить от Сони.
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Тоньше, ярче, чернее
Ню-ню...  А за счёт чего ярче, там не написано?
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